I'm sure you'd know I'm talking about someone with the last name Kebbel, but where does that name originally come from?
Name origin; Kebbel, where is the ethnic background for that last name?
This is one explanation of it's origin.
Surname: Kebbell
This name derives from the Olde English pre 7th Century "cybbel" meaning a cudgel and was originally given as an occupational name to a maker or seller of cudgels, or perhaps as a nickname to one stout and heavy as a cudgel. The surname is first recorded towards the end of the 11th Century, (see below). In 1214 one, Salomon Kebbel appears in the "Pipe Rolls of Kent" and in 1273 a Reginald Kibel is recorded in "The Hundred Rolls of Lincolnshire". In the "modern" idiom, the name has eight spelling variations:- Keeble, Keable, Keb(b)ell, Keble, Kib(b)el and Kibble. In 1686 John, son of John Keeble, was christened in St. James', Clerkenwell and in 1806 Richard Keeble and Mary Whiting were married in St. George's, Hanover Square, London.The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Aeluric Chebbel, which was dated circa 1095, in the Feudal Documents from the Abbey of Bury, St. Edmunds, Suffolk, during the reign of King William 11, Nickname "Rufus" 1087 - 1100.
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Is clay a slave name because i want to know my name origin i am part african american and latino but clay?
is from the afro american side
Is clay a slave name because i want to know my name origin i am part african american and latino but clay?
Muhammad Ali's name before he changed it was Cassius Clay, apparently from an ancestor who was a slave, but Clay is obviously a fairly widespread name without slave connections in most cases, you will have to research your family history to find out for sure, you cannot guess at it.
Edit :
Clay: origins %26amp; meanings:
English: from Old English cl牵g 鈥榗lay鈥? applied as a topographic name for someone who lived in an area of clay soil or as a metonymic occupational name for a worker in a clay pit (see Clayman).
Americanized spelling of German Klee.
The relatively common English name Clay had several American forebears in the 18th century. Henry Clay, born in Hanover, VA, in 1777, secretary of state for President John Quincy Adams, was descended from English ancestors who came to VA shortly after the founding of Jamestown. The revolutionary war officer Joseph Clay, also a member of the Continental Congress, was a native of Yorkshire, England, who emigrated to GA in 1760 and was a founder of the University of Georgia.
Correction : Muhammad Ali was born in Louisville, Kentucky. He was named after his father, Cassius Marcellus Clay Sr., who was named for the 19th century abolitionist and politician Cassius Clay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Al...
Reply:Clay is probably British or something like that... many British names are nouns like that. Perhaps the African-American part of your family, way back when, took the name of their masters? (Or were forced to take it, maybe?)
I'm not very good with slave history, though I try to raise awareness of modern-day slavery.
Aaaaanyway, yeah, Clay sounds more like a colonial name to me.
Reply:Cassius Clay was a plantation owner turned Abolitionist. His plantation was in either Lexington or Richmond Kentucky. If I were looking for any information on a black ancestor named Clay I would begin there. Some of the Clays in that area probably took the name after the civil war in gratitude. But many of them had been freed by Clay. The last site under sources is information about John Clay, b. 1824. He's an ancestor of Mohammed Ali. This would be a place to start. Good luck.
Reply:I have fun tweaking ancestry.com... so, in the 1880 census, you have the first census where a person's place of birth, AND of their parents is shown. It also happens to be 15 yrs after the Civil war ended.
So, ancestry tells me that 4,641 persons with the name Clay, were Black. Those from Southern states are very likely to have been former slaves. 10 of those actually say that their father was born in Africa.
What can I say... I am on a statistic rampage today. *smile* That should intrigue you into tracing your actual ancestors.
oh, 7477 of persons with the name were White.
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with all respect.. you would start with yourself, then work backwards, and see where it leads. There were Clays in many places other than Kentucky.
Reply:There really weren't any specific slave names. The slaves brought from Africa didn't have surnames(afterall most did not have one in Europe until the last melennium). When they were freed, frequently they took the name of their former owner.
Reply:Well, I know a few Clays who aren't African-American, so I don't think it is a slave name.
christmas bell
Is clay a slave name because i want to know my name origin i am part african american and latino but clay?
Muhammad Ali's name before he changed it was Cassius Clay, apparently from an ancestor who was a slave, but Clay is obviously a fairly widespread name without slave connections in most cases, you will have to research your family history to find out for sure, you cannot guess at it.
Edit :
Clay: origins %26amp; meanings:
English: from Old English cl牵g 鈥榗lay鈥? applied as a topographic name for someone who lived in an area of clay soil or as a metonymic occupational name for a worker in a clay pit (see Clayman).
Americanized spelling of German Klee.
The relatively common English name Clay had several American forebears in the 18th century. Henry Clay, born in Hanover, VA, in 1777, secretary of state for President John Quincy Adams, was descended from English ancestors who came to VA shortly after the founding of Jamestown. The revolutionary war officer Joseph Clay, also a member of the Continental Congress, was a native of Yorkshire, England, who emigrated to GA in 1760 and was a founder of the University of Georgia.
Correction : Muhammad Ali was born in Louisville, Kentucky. He was named after his father, Cassius Marcellus Clay Sr., who was named for the 19th century abolitionist and politician Cassius Clay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Al...
Reply:Clay is probably British or something like that... many British names are nouns like that. Perhaps the African-American part of your family, way back when, took the name of their masters? (Or were forced to take it, maybe?)
I'm not very good with slave history, though I try to raise awareness of modern-day slavery.
Aaaaanyway, yeah, Clay sounds more like a colonial name to me.
Reply:Cassius Clay was a plantation owner turned Abolitionist. His plantation was in either Lexington or Richmond Kentucky. If I were looking for any information on a black ancestor named Clay I would begin there. Some of the Clays in that area probably took the name after the civil war in gratitude. But many of them had been freed by Clay. The last site under sources is information about John Clay, b. 1824. He's an ancestor of Mohammed Ali. This would be a place to start. Good luck.
Reply:I have fun tweaking ancestry.com... so, in the 1880 census, you have the first census where a person's place of birth, AND of their parents is shown. It also happens to be 15 yrs after the Civil war ended.
So, ancestry tells me that 4,641 persons with the name Clay, were Black. Those from Southern states are very likely to have been former slaves. 10 of those actually say that their father was born in Africa.
What can I say... I am on a statistic rampage today. *smile* That should intrigue you into tracing your actual ancestors.
oh, 7477 of persons with the name were White.
edit-
with all respect.. you would start with yourself, then work backwards, and see where it leads. There were Clays in many places other than Kentucky.
Reply:There really weren't any specific slave names. The slaves brought from Africa didn't have surnames(afterall most did not have one in Europe until the last melennium). When they were freed, frequently they took the name of their former owner.
Reply:Well, I know a few Clays who aren't African-American, so I don't think it is a slave name.
christmas bell
What is the name and origin of this religious story about a boy getting a piggyback ride from the devil?
The boy sells his soul in exchange for a ride to the top of the hill in satan麓s(large goat) basket while the other kid麓s choose to hike.
I have seen the illustration many times.
What is the name and origin of this religious story about a boy getting a piggyback ride from the devil?
This is not not a religous story.
I have seen the illustration many times.
What is the name and origin of this religious story about a boy getting a piggyback ride from the devil?
This is not not a religous story.
What is the name/origin of the dramatic "dun dun dun" sound used in movies and tv?
Here is a clip of it: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSing...
What is the name/origin of the dramatic "dun dun dun" sound used in movies and tv?
Jaws!
Reply:Dragnet
Reply:it's neither dragnet or jaws.
It's dramatic basses and timpani phrase.
What is the name/origin of the dramatic "dun dun dun" sound used in movies and tv?
Jaws!
Reply:Dragnet
Reply:it's neither dragnet or jaws.
It's dramatic basses and timpani phrase.
What are the name origin for-Alyce, Carolyn and Hoskins?
Thanks if you only no for one can you still please answer.
What are the name origin for-Alyce, Carolyn and Hoskins?
I found this for you.
Hoskins Name Meaning and History
English: patronymic from Hoskin.
Variant of Dutch Hosekin, a metonymic occupational name for a maker or seller of hose (garments for the legs), from Middle Low German hose 鈥榟ose鈥?
Carolyn
English and French: from the French form of Latin or Italian Carolina, a feminine derivative of Carolus (see Charles). Variant: Carolyn.
Cognates: German, Danish: Karoline. Scandinavian, Polish, Czech: Karolina.
Short forms: English: Caro (not normally used as an independent given name); Carrie.
This is the only spelling of the name I could find for Alyce.
Alice
English and French: variant of Adelaide, representing an Old French spelling of a greatly contracted version of Germanic Adalheidis. It was regarded as a distinct name when it was revived in the 19th century. It was the name of the child heroine of Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865) and Through the Looking Glass (1872), who was based on his child friend Alice Patience Liddell, daughter of the dean of Christ Church, Oxford. Variant: Alys.
Cognate: Irish Gaelic: Ail铆s.
Hope this helps.
What are the name origin for-Alyce, Carolyn and Hoskins?
I found this for you.
Hoskins Name Meaning and History
English: patronymic from Hoskin.
Variant of Dutch Hosekin, a metonymic occupational name for a maker or seller of hose (garments for the legs), from Middle Low German hose 鈥榟ose鈥?
Carolyn
English and French: from the French form of Latin or Italian Carolina, a feminine derivative of Carolus (see Charles). Variant: Carolyn.
Cognates: German, Danish: Karoline. Scandinavian, Polish, Czech: Karolina.
Short forms: English: Caro (not normally used as an independent given name); Carrie.
This is the only spelling of the name I could find for Alyce.
Alice
English and French: variant of Adelaide, representing an Old French spelling of a greatly contracted version of Germanic Adalheidis. It was regarded as a distinct name when it was revived in the 19th century. It was the name of the child heroine of Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865) and Through the Looking Glass (1872), who was based on his child friend Alice Patience Liddell, daughter of the dean of Christ Church, Oxford. Variant: Alys.
Cognate: Irish Gaelic: Ail铆s.
Hope this helps.
What is the Cherry Tomato's name origin?
Is it simply because of it's visual resemblance to the simple cherry, or is there a more detailed mystery behind it? As here (Israel) it is pronounced "Sherry", sounding as in French. Therefore it makes the bunch here wonder about it's actual correct pronunciation, so I decided to ask possible experts :)
What is the Cherry Tomato's name origin?
I think due to its appearance
Reply:i think it is really called the cherry tomato.
They do look like cherries.
But they don't taste like it.
But tomatoes are fruits, so being called a "cherry" tomato makes sense.
Reply:it is CHERRY tomato and it's name is Solanum lycopersicum cerasiforme. Cherry in french is ceris. Sherry is a drink. Hope this helps
sunflower
What is the Cherry Tomato's name origin?
I think due to its appearance
Reply:i think it is really called the cherry tomato.
They do look like cherries.
But they don't taste like it.
But tomatoes are fruits, so being called a "cherry" tomato makes sense.
Reply:it is CHERRY tomato and it's name is Solanum lycopersicum cerasiforme. Cherry in french is ceris. Sherry is a drink. Hope this helps
sunflower
Does anyone else have a name origin that does not match with their background?
just curious! my first name is French my middle name is Scandinavian and my last name is Scottish but i don't have those type of backgrounds(at least i don't think so). is there anybody else like this?
Does anyone else have a name origin that does not match with their background?
I'm a Black American.
My first name is French
My middle name is English
My last name is English.
I got my last name from the family of the slaveholder who owned my ancestors, so the slaveholder was probably of English descent.
Reply:yes, even though my ethnicity is German, my last name is english. This is because after WW2, when my relatives immigrated here, they anglicized their last name so there would be less discrimination against them (because people were obviously racist against Germans at the time)
Reply:My names are like yours. My first name is french and so weird that I have never had anyone pronounce it right. My middle name is from a Viking Opera, my last name is scottish. What were our parents thinking????
Reply:Yes, I'm Mexican and my last names is Krasovsky which is slavic lol People always think I'm Polish or Russian but actually I don't really know why I have that last name or where exactly it comes from.
Reply:Rank 1 is reported for being ignorant with his racial slurs...
sad to say some of the human race acts like this
well back to your question ...a friends surname was RAGU but his background was German and they could not figure out where their surname started
Reply:No sweat. I would think it this would apply to practically all African Americans even more? :o
Reply:My name is rare Spanish name yet I happen to be a black american
Does anyone else have a name origin that does not match with their background?
I'm a Black American.
My first name is French
My middle name is English
My last name is English.
I got my last name from the family of the slaveholder who owned my ancestors, so the slaveholder was probably of English descent.
Reply:yes, even though my ethnicity is German, my last name is english. This is because after WW2, when my relatives immigrated here, they anglicized their last name so there would be less discrimination against them (because people were obviously racist against Germans at the time)
Reply:My names are like yours. My first name is french and so weird that I have never had anyone pronounce it right. My middle name is from a Viking Opera, my last name is scottish. What were our parents thinking????
Reply:Yes, I'm Mexican and my last names is Krasovsky which is slavic lol People always think I'm Polish or Russian but actually I don't really know why I have that last name or where exactly it comes from.
Reply:Rank 1 is reported for being ignorant with his racial slurs...
sad to say some of the human race acts like this
well back to your question ...a friends surname was RAGU but his background was German and they could not figure out where their surname started
Reply:No sweat. I would think it this would apply to practically all African Americans even more? :o
Reply:My name is rare Spanish name yet I happen to be a black american
Need Last name origin of the name Chepko?
I have searched and search for a neighbor, and cannot find any records of the country it comes from.
Any ideas or suggestions, even educated guesses?
Need Last name origin of the name Chepko?
I found 2 different groups of immigrants with that surname using that exact spelling...there were another 100 using a close variant.
Three were Magyars (Hungarians), but six were from Poland. In Polish records I've found the same people using a number of variant spellings (very common because of the literacy rate being so low). 4 were from 呕ydowo Pozna艅 and also used the spelling Czepko or Ciepko/Ciepka. The others were from Szamotu艂y. There were two other Chepkos who were Polish and came to the US, but they lived in France for several years and that's the "last residence" listed. Their hometowns aren't listed on the manifests.
Amongst the Magyar lines, I can find the records for a mother and child with the hometown listed, but I can't decypher the writing for the town. I can tell you they listed that they were moving to Sharon Pennsylvania and that the husband (Miso Chepko) had come ahead of the rest of the family and was already living in Sharon. I haven't found his immigration records to compare. There's also a 35 year old man named Paul Chepko, last living in Budapest but declaring himself a German citizen, who came over in 1902. His contact information in the US didn't film well and is pretty much illegible. But one thing is clear, he was probably a German-Pole who had been living in Hungary (based on all the margin notes, etc).
You're probably looking at two families (one in each country) where the names developed independently of each other. But in both cases, the immigration was in roughly the last 100 years, which isn't much digging to do. Find her grandparents' death certificates and you should have the answer to your question.
ETA: I also found a WWI draft registration for Chepko, Wladimir 18 Sep 1893 Selets Russia. He was living in New Castle DE. Selets is in what we now call Belarus. I also found our immigrant, Paul Chepko, was living in Westmoreland PA in 1917, his DOB was 20 May 1878.
Reply:http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/f...
has just 14, all in the USA, which strongly suggests it was something else in Europe (or spelled differently). Does your neighbor know who her parents were and when they died? ( Some people don't, sadly.)
If so, their birth, death or marriage certificates; obituaries, funeral home records, SSN applications or cemetery records may tell you who THEIR parents were. From there you work backwards, one generation at a time.
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.c...
has 10 entries for the surname. Look there. You might get very, very lucky.
Reply:Russian
Reply:cheap ok
Reply:Italian.
All Italian names end in a vowel. (A, E, I, O...hardly U still a vowel though)
Maybe Polish or Greek, though?
Not sure. =]]
Reply:Several persons gave you guesses... the problem with that is that genealogy is totally against guesses. The whole idea of research is finding reliable historical records that apply to your own individual ancestry, not just to a surname.
In order to find where your own ancestor came from, you start by working back from yourself, making sure that you document each step. Many times, person try 'jumping' ahead and sabatoge the whole thing, by missing records that may have the solution.
The best example might be looking at the census for 1930, which may have YOUR ancestor living with his/her parents. Not only will that include the birth place of each person in the house, it asks for where the person's parents were born.
99% of the time, the problem lies in looking for a general answer (where does the name come from?) instead of specific (where was gr grandpa Chepko born?).
All you need to do is shift your thinking in terms of what you are asking.
Reply:There are 2 on the 1900 census living in Steubenville Ohio. They were born in Austria. However, they could have been Hungarian, Serb, Croatian etc.
The 1910 census had 12 living in Redstone, Pennsylvania, Chicago, Illinois, Donora Washington, and Mount PLeasant Pennsylvania. . Three were born in Hungary,
two in Russia, two in Austria and 5 in Pennsylvania.
The same surname can come from more than one nationality. The only way your neighbor would know if it is her family name is to trace her ancestry starting with herself and working back one generation at a time.
Anytime she wants to do this there are lots of people on this board that can give her or you some great tips and advice.
Reply:Italian.
Any ideas or suggestions, even educated guesses?
Need Last name origin of the name Chepko?
I found 2 different groups of immigrants with that surname using that exact spelling...there were another 100 using a close variant.
Three were Magyars (Hungarians), but six were from Poland. In Polish records I've found the same people using a number of variant spellings (very common because of the literacy rate being so low). 4 were from 呕ydowo Pozna艅 and also used the spelling Czepko or Ciepko/Ciepka. The others were from Szamotu艂y. There were two other Chepkos who were Polish and came to the US, but they lived in France for several years and that's the "last residence" listed. Their hometowns aren't listed on the manifests.
Amongst the Magyar lines, I can find the records for a mother and child with the hometown listed, but I can't decypher the writing for the town. I can tell you they listed that they were moving to Sharon Pennsylvania and that the husband (Miso Chepko) had come ahead of the rest of the family and was already living in Sharon. I haven't found his immigration records to compare. There's also a 35 year old man named Paul Chepko, last living in Budapest but declaring himself a German citizen, who came over in 1902. His contact information in the US didn't film well and is pretty much illegible. But one thing is clear, he was probably a German-Pole who had been living in Hungary (based on all the margin notes, etc).
You're probably looking at two families (one in each country) where the names developed independently of each other. But in both cases, the immigration was in roughly the last 100 years, which isn't much digging to do. Find her grandparents' death certificates and you should have the answer to your question.
ETA: I also found a WWI draft registration for Chepko, Wladimir 18 Sep 1893 Selets Russia. He was living in New Castle DE. Selets is in what we now call Belarus. I also found our immigrant, Paul Chepko, was living in Westmoreland PA in 1917, his DOB was 20 May 1878.
Reply:http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/f...
has just 14, all in the USA, which strongly suggests it was something else in Europe (or spelled differently). Does your neighbor know who her parents were and when they died? ( Some people don't, sadly.)
If so, their birth, death or marriage certificates; obituaries, funeral home records, SSN applications or cemetery records may tell you who THEIR parents were. From there you work backwards, one generation at a time.
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.c...
has 10 entries for the surname. Look there. You might get very, very lucky.
Reply:Russian
Reply:cheap ok
Reply:Italian.
All Italian names end in a vowel. (A, E, I, O...hardly U still a vowel though)
Maybe Polish or Greek, though?
Not sure. =]]
Reply:Several persons gave you guesses... the problem with that is that genealogy is totally against guesses. The whole idea of research is finding reliable historical records that apply to your own individual ancestry, not just to a surname.
In order to find where your own ancestor came from, you start by working back from yourself, making sure that you document each step. Many times, person try 'jumping' ahead and sabatoge the whole thing, by missing records that may have the solution.
The best example might be looking at the census for 1930, which may have YOUR ancestor living with his/her parents. Not only will that include the birth place of each person in the house, it asks for where the person's parents were born.
99% of the time, the problem lies in looking for a general answer (where does the name come from?) instead of specific (where was gr grandpa Chepko born?).
All you need to do is shift your thinking in terms of what you are asking.
Reply:There are 2 on the 1900 census living in Steubenville Ohio. They were born in Austria. However, they could have been Hungarian, Serb, Croatian etc.
The 1910 census had 12 living in Redstone, Pennsylvania, Chicago, Illinois, Donora Washington, and Mount PLeasant Pennsylvania. . Three were born in Hungary,
two in Russia, two in Austria and 5 in Pennsylvania.
The same surname can come from more than one nationality. The only way your neighbor would know if it is her family name is to trace her ancestry starting with herself and working back one generation at a time.
Anytime she wants to do this there are lots of people on this board that can give her or you some great tips and advice.
Reply:Italian.
Name origin?
hi there. i recieved a copy of my family tree today and found that my grandmother (on father's side)'s first name is Clellyon. has anyone heard of this name before and do you know it's origin? thanks, shawna
Name origin?
It sounds to me like your own, just made up, an unique identifier.
Reply:Hi, Shawna..
I know that (today) many parents choose to create names, in order that their child will have something unique.
Just a heads up... watch carefully when you do see an unusual first name. During colonial times (and present) it is very common to give a child (male or female) what turns out to be an ancestral surname. I've had it turn out to be the lead to finding earlier generations that were unknown.
Reply:It looks Welsh to me. Why don't you see if it's in the online phone book in Britain?
Reply:Sounds as though it could Celtic - I've never come across it although I've some strange ones in my Family Tree, too. I have a feeling that it may be the Welsh name from which Kelly is derived.
Try looking in a book about "Naming the Baby" or similar; the only one I have at home is "Origins of Surnames".
Reply:look on wikipedia.org
Reply:Celtic I think, to do with flint and stone. Spelling may be a little changed over the years
Name origin?
It sounds to me like your own, just made up, an unique identifier.
Reply:Hi, Shawna..
I know that (today) many parents choose to create names, in order that their child will have something unique.
Just a heads up... watch carefully when you do see an unusual first name. During colonial times (and present) it is very common to give a child (male or female) what turns out to be an ancestral surname. I've had it turn out to be the lead to finding earlier generations that were unknown.
Reply:It looks Welsh to me. Why don't you see if it's in the online phone book in Britain?
Reply:Sounds as though it could Celtic - I've never come across it although I've some strange ones in my Family Tree, too. I have a feeling that it may be the Welsh name from which Kelly is derived.
Try looking in a book about "Naming the Baby" or similar; the only one I have at home is "Origins of Surnames".
Reply:look on wikipedia.org
Reply:Celtic I think, to do with flint and stone. Spelling may be a little changed over the years
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